turkey is another, hezbollah and lebanon, egypt, i agree is yet another so there is not one formula. islam is dirse and it will vary from one country to the other. in some countries, islam is in time will become a pragmatic. in other countries, it would be an ongoing revolution, radicallization. >> we have not been clear enough, john kerry has done this on his last trip but we need to be more clear about standing for democratic principleses. minority rights, women's rights, freedom of expression, all of the stuff is democracy that the muslim brotherhood in egypt is begin to to dismantle. >> even with some awful examples of mod rule in which some people -- >> brutality towards women. >> or the military in egypt may look north an look at the turkish brethren and realize that if you wait too long and try to take it to the regime you may rot in jail. >> yeah. >> that happened because they wanted to put the military back into the baracks as they said. and they did that and more. >> yeah. baracks in the full sense of the term. >> yes, indeed. let me close by this. what is the essential con